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[00:12]<d2ysxjl>I installed firefox with pkg_add, but it only runs as root? My user is in the wheel group...
[00:29]<d2ysxjl>anyone have an idea why firefox won't run as a normal user?
[00:29]<lzja>has
[00:30]<lzja>and what's a not normal user?
[00:31]<d2ysxjl>well a "normal" unprivlaged user, the user is in the wheel group however
[00:31]<d2ysxjl>and I installed firefox with pkg_add, so I'm not sure why it only runs as root
[00:34]<wsduzp>wel he looks pretty priviledged to me if he's in wheel ;p
[00:34]<d2ysxjl>heh, indeed, but he for some reason, can't run firefox
[00:35]<d2ysxjl>no errors or anything, just dumps back to the shell
[00:35]<wsduzp>no clue... never dealt with anything GUI in NetBSD
[00:35]<wsduzp>totally out of subject, but anyone knows if it's possible to use mod_proxy to allow ssh connections on port 443 from one host? (aka my school ;o)
[00:36]<wsduzp>I'd still like to use port 443 for regular ssl, but I'd like to be able to connect with ssh on port 443, sadly my isp won't provide me with two ips :/
[00:40]<rraffsax>mbishop: try pkilling firefox-bin
[00:48]<d2ysxjl>jakllsch: just kills it running as root, but still doesn't work as non root
[01:02]<fysx>good bye
[01:08]<vsudn>xSmurf: you could still have your silly flat file system with dbmail btw ;)
[01:08]<vsudn>xSmurf: it supports sqlite :)
[01:08]<wsduzp>I like my flat db ;p
[01:08]<wsduzp>keeping is stupid simpel
[01:08]<wsduzp>*it
[01:09]<vsudn>xSmurf: sqlite is simple, its a flat file db system ;)
[01:09]<wsduzp>well I already have mysql running, no need for another DB
[01:10]<wsduzp>but the point is I wanted to keep email away from another possible broken link between programs
[01:10]<vsudn>xSmurf: sqlite doesn't run 24/7 :)
[01:10]<wsduzp>you mean it breaks half the time? ;p
[01:10]<vsudn>it reads the file ;)
[01:10]<wsduzp>look, it works, I'm not gonna change it
[01:10]<vsudn>xSmurf: no, its like using db4
[01:10]<wsduzp>why would I switch to sqlite over what I have atm (Berkley DB)?
[01:11]<vsudn>donno, because all the mail would be stored in a database file :)
[01:13]<wsduzp>one more reason not to do it ;)
[01:14]<vsudn>you don't trust sqlite for 10 gigs of stuff? :)
[01:14]<wsduzp>not as much as I trust plain old files ;)
[01:14]<vsudn>all those used up inodes..
[01:54]<asjpv>Shh.
[02:16]<rfrumyj`>I wonder why this piece of code works properly on GNU/Linux
[02:16]<rfrumyj`>and does'nt work on NetBSD
[02:16]<rfrumyj`>http://rafb.net/paste/results/3cb95h70.html
[02:17]<rfrumyj`>I assume to have some lib broke
[02:17]<rfrumyj`>Am i right?
[02:17]<asjpv>curses?
[02:17]<asjpv>Have you even got that installed?
[02:18]<rfrumyj`>curses are in the base system.
[02:18]<asjpv>yeah, lib curses?
[02:18]<rfrumyj`>yes
[02:18]<d2ysxjl>I can't have PKG_PATH set and use pkgsrc?
[02:18]<asjpv>so what is it bitching about then, claudio` ?
[02:18]<rfrumyj`>mbishop, just try.
[02:18]<d2ysxjl>claudio`: I did, and it tells me no :|
[02:19]<asjpv>:/
[02:19]<asjpv>Yeah right
[02:19]<rfrumyj`>mbishop, in the most cases you will have'nt that variable set
[02:19]<rfrumyj`>mbishop, you don't need that to use pkgsrc.
[02:19]<rfrumyj`>jsoft, really i don't know.
[02:20]<asjpv>claudio`: well perhaps start with an ERROR MESSAGE you numpty! :P
[02:20]<d2ysxjl>claudio`: I would like to be able to use pkg_* and pkgsrc, so I set PKG_PATH for pkg_*, but can't I use both?
[02:20]<asjpv>Your an error message mbishop
[02:20]<rfrumyj`>mbishop, i assume you are talking about several pkgtools
[02:21]<rfrumyj`>well, you still don't need to set PKG_PATH, as i told you.
[02:21]<d2ysxjl>claudio`: well how can I make pkg_add not require me to put full uri's?
[02:22]<rfrumyj`>mbishop, pkg_add don't have nothing to do with pkgsrc
[02:22]<rfrumyj`>not at all.
[02:22]<d2ysxjl>I know that
[02:22]<rfrumyj`>mbishop, want you build your own package or just want to install the binaries?
[02:22]<d2ysxjl>claudio`: BOTH
[02:22]<d2ysxjl>like I said before, I would like to use pkg_add and others, and pkgsrc, depending on what I need
[02:23]<rfrumyj`>You have to choose what you need first, then configure your system. Pkgsrc packages don't require that variable
[02:23]<rfrumyj`>and you don't have to use pkg_add to build them
[02:23]<rfrumyj`>if you want to install the binaries then you have to set PKG_PATH in order to fetch the tarball from the FTP.
[02:23]<d2ysxjl>right
[02:24]<d2ysxjl>what I want is to have PKG_PATH set, but still have pkgsrc work...why does it care if PKG_PATH is set?
[02:24]<rfrumyj`>then configure mk.conf
[02:25]<d2ysxjl>ah, ok
[02:26]<zyffyr>mbishop: and comment out the part of bsd.pkg.mk where it checks PKG_PATH.
[02:26]<zyffyr>according to the CVS ChangeLog, this should work since 2000. :)
[02:28]<rfrumyj`>"To save some typing, you can set the PKG_PATH environment variable to a
[02:28]<rfrumyj`>semicolon-separated list of paths (including remote URLs); trailing slashes are
[02:28]<rfrumyj`>not allowed."
[02:28]<rfrumyj`>quoted from /usr/pkgsrc/doc/pkgsrc.txt .
[02:37]<wvxww>Well, i tryed
[02:37]<wvxww>NetBSD sux on Beuge hardware
[02:37]<wvxww>*Beige
[02:59]<d2ysxjl>Does a user need to be in a certain group to run programs installed with pkg_add?
[03:00]<asjpv_>no... just root :)
[03:00]<asjpv_>oh
[03:00]<asjpv_>erm
[03:00]<asjpv_>no :)
[03:00]<asjpv_>Just a joe bloggs users.
[03:01]<lxrmvxry>mbishop: hmm if you experience problems maybe check that you use a umask of 022 for the root user
[03:01]<lxrmvxry>but even then permissions of the archives should normally be ok and applied
[03:01]<lxrmvxry>it could make difference for the things you would build using pkgsrc however
[03:02]<lxrmvxry>also check that /usr/pkg/bin and /usr/pkg/sbin are under your PATH
[03:04]<wsduzp>hi2all :)
[03:04]<wsduzp>wthww it doesn't suck, we say it's challenging ;)
[03:04]<wsduzp>hi jsoft & phadthai :)
[03:06]<lxrmvxry>hi
[03:06]<wsduzp>sup?
[03:09]<d2ysxjl>phadthai: umask is 022, and /usr/pkg/bin /usr/pkg/sbin are both in my PATH
[03:10]<lxrmvxry>and you get permission denied trying to executea program you installed?
[03:11]<lxrmvxry>maybe show the result of ls -l $(whereis <programname>) or such

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