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[00:00]<rraffsax>if you don't mind using 1.6 or something there is a proprietary LKM for a PCI ADSL card IIRC
[01:16]<vydjpjgya>jakllsch: Not propietary drivers!
[01:16]<vydjpjgya>jakllsch: 0.25Mib?
[01:37]<dzezycssjg>Anyone here that know anything about Logitech's io2 ? (Personal Digital Pen)
[01:37]<dzezycssjg>Seems to be an interesting piece of hardware,, But I guess it won't work all that well under netbsd :(
[01:40]<vydjpjgya>mrEriksson: What's that? :P
[01:41]<vydjpjgya>There were those kind of things years ago, but didn't seem very sucessful
[01:41]<dzezycssjg>www.logitech.com has more info about them :)
[01:42]<dzezycssjg>No, that's probably true, but I guess much has happened in the last few years
[01:42]<vydjpjgya>I'm reading it, but does it has handwriting recognition built-in on the hardware?
[01:43]<dzezycssjg>Though, I don't really know how useful I would find something like that,, But it is an interesting piece of hardware :)
[01:43]<dzezycssjg>I don't know :)
[01:43]<vydjpjgya>It's supported by Linux?
[01:43]<dzezycssjg>Now as far as I have been able to tell so far atleast :(
[01:43]<vydjpjgya>if it's supported by linux in open-source manner, then it could be quite easy possible on other open-source operating systems :)
[01:44]<vydjpjgya>Then it can be difficult...
[01:44]<dzezycssjg>Yes, I would have suspected so aswell
[01:44]<dzezycssjg>And if it attached to the host using som estandard interface, like ucom or so, I guess it would be really easy to do something with it
[01:45]<vydjpjgya>How it's the open-source handwriting recognition? There are quite some PDAs using Linux, maybe some of them not use propietary solutions for handwriting recognition...
[01:47]<dzezycssjg>I even think we have some hardwriting recognition software in pkgsrc :)
[01:48]<vydjpjgya>uhm
[01:48]<vydjpjgya>I'm waiting for the reworked pkgsrc, it has some lacks that even pkgmanager can't solve them (even in a hacky manner)
[01:51]<vydjpjgya>them=still
[02:03]<rvrfsnsyr>Hello... Does somebody knows about run jdk+amd64+NetBSD?
[02:21]<ljugzzm>re
[02:21]<rsrcj>hello
[02:22]<rsrcj>does netbsd support the rtl8185 wireless chipset?
[02:24]<rsrcj>I don't see it in the devices list
[03:04]<zzapymn>Hey all
[03:04]<zzapymn>I'm looking to install NetBSD, but I want to get some confirmation on my partition layout.
[03:06]<zzapymn>Currently I run OpenBSD and have / - 500M, /usr - 3.4G, /usr/obj - 1G, /usr/src 768M, /var 1G, /tmp 500M
[03:06]<zzapymn>I use obj and src to make life easier when updating my system with patches and rebuilding.
[03:06]<zzapymn>Is the same type of thing recommended for NetBSD?
[03:09]<zzapymn>I do not see anything in the NetBSD build documentation that mentions other directories?
[03:09]<zzapymn>I am unsure how much space is really required for the compilation of the userland and/or pkgsrc
[03:21]<ljugeeee>'nuit
[04:52]<myvn-j>arcfide: still here?
[04:52]<myvn-j>arcfide: if so, how much RAM do you have?
[04:53]<myvn-j>I'd make sure swap is at least that big, and var is bigger
[04:53]<myvn-j>other than that, your layout sounds fine, though depending on what version of NetBSD (and how much RAM you have) you might want to give tmpfs a shot
[04:53]<myvn-j>hmm, /usr/src might need resizing, lemme check what mine uses
[04:54]<myvn-j>dive@jane:/disks/wd4a % sudo du -sh /usr/src
[04:54]<myvn-j>815M /usr/src
[05:20]<ajjfnjgn>Hi, anyone here who knows how to enable directory and file completion in pdksh?
[05:20]<mnvr_rdmfnd>set -o emacs
[05:21]<mnvr_rdmfnd>set -o vi may work too.
[05:22]<ajjfnjgn>I have tried that, but pressing the TAB key, just makes a tabulator jump
[05:22]<ayeue>coolzone: bind ^I=complete-list
[05:23]<mnvr_rdmfnd>Are you using the ksh that comes with NetBSD, or the one from pkgsrc?
[05:23]<ayeue>Meta_Ridley: he's using pdksh he said, so he's using neither
[05:23]<ayeue>(or is pkgsrc in pkgsrc, either?)
[05:23]<mnvr_rdmfnd>Actually, the pdksh *is* the one that NetBSD has installed by default.
[05:24]<ayeue>Meta_Ridley: no, it's a heavyly patched pdksh
[05:24]<mnvr_rdmfnd>Ah.
[05:24]<asjpv>No dont pull that out.
[05:24]<ayeue>I would say that you can't even compare the one that comes with NetBSD and the original one. NetBSD's is way better.
[05:24]<ajjfnjgn>Hmm, I just found out the "esc" key does the trick after using the "set -o vi"
[05:24]<ayeue>coolzone: 04:20 < ciruz> coolzone: bind ^I=complete-list
[05:24]<ayeue>then you can use tab
[05:25]<ayeue>in emacs and in vi mode
[05:25]<mnvr_rdmfnd>I didn't know.
[05:25]<ayeue>coolzone: but I don't think you'll have fun with an unpatched pdksh
[05:25]<ajjfnjgn>ciruz, thanks! :-) can I set this up in .profile to its set up each time?
[05:26]<ayeue>try mksh or so. it's the ksh that mirbsd uses, based on the openbsd ksh which is very near to the netbsd ksh
[05:26]<ayeue>coolzone: yes, you can
[05:26]<ayeue>coolzone: but be sure that you use ksh -l then
[05:26]<dzzzyp>does ksh even have bash-style $PS1 stuffs?
[05:27]<ayeue>mngrif: i don't know for the unpatched pdksh, but openbsd ksh / mksh has
[05:27]<ajjfnjgn>cirus, I am sorry but what to you mean that I should use "ksh -l" then? Bear with me.
[05:27]<ayeue>coolzone: .profile is only processed when you start a login shell
[05:27]<dzzzyp>ciruz: where can i find documentation about it? the manpage only speaks of what PS1 is
[05:28]<ajjfnjgn>ciruz, ahh ok :-) Thanks a lot!
[05:28]<ayeue>mngrif: hm, don't know. i just looked at other's configs
[05:28]<dzzzyp>i mean, you can PS1='`pwd`@`hostname`# '
[05:28]<dzzzyp>but that's two programs that get executed every time you press enter!
[05:29]<ayeue>mngrif: PS1='$PWD@`hostname`$ '
[05:29]<dzzzyp>one less
[05:29]<ayeue>HOSTNAME=`hostname`
[05:29]<ayeue>PS1='$PWD@$HOSTNAME$ '
[05:30]<dzzzyp>that works
[05:30]<dzzzyp>awesome, thank you
[05:30]<ayeue>you could even reduce it to one line:
[05:30]<ayeue>PS1="\$PWD@`hostname`"
[05:31]<dzzzyp>ooh, $PWD doesn't work properly
[05:31]<ayeue>it does
[05:31]<dzzzyp>2cb# PS1="root@$PWD$ "
[05:31]<dzzzyp>root@/root$ cd /
[05:31]<dzzzyp>root@/root$
[05:31]<ayeue>the \ is important if you use "
[05:32]<ayeue>read the manpage and look what's the difference between ' and " ;)
[05:32]<dzzzyp>yeah, that works
[05:32]<ayeue>try this:
[05:32]<ayeue>PS1="\$PWD@`hostname`"
[05:32]<dzzzyp>i got it now, thank you
[05:32]<ayeue>with this, hostname gets executed once
[05:32]<ayeue>and $PWD parsed everytime you press enter
[05:35]<dzzzyp>PS1="root@2cb:\$PWD$ "
[05:35]<dzzzyp>is what i turned it into

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