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[00:12]<fuffjgzyz>hi there
[00:13]<aajwjg>hey pulponair
[00:14]<fuffjgzyz>i just received an apache2 error on startup after enabling modpython in complains about "No space left on device: Couldn't create accept lock". I guess this is related to missing semaphor or something the error disappeared after i changed acceptmutex to flock. Since i do not know that much about apache semaphor handling could anyone please clearify things?
[00:17]<zazmagaal>pulponair: just check the obvious - you *have* got free space?
[00:17]<fuffjgzyz>gordonjcp: yes sure
[00:17]<zazmagaal>hm
[00:17]<zazmagaal>do you know where it's trying to create the lock file?
[00:18]<fuffjgzyz>gordonjcp: if you me diskspace by saying free space
[00:18]<zazmagaal>yup
[00:18]<fuffjgzyz>gordonjcp: sure /var/run/accept.lock
[00:18]<zazmagaal>that's writable by the process running apache?
[00:18]<fuffjgzyz>which is created after i changed to flock
[00:18]<fuffjgzyz>yes its existing at the moment
[00:20]<fuffjgzyz>gordinjcp: so if it works with acceptmutex flock and not working with default mutex it must be related to the semaphore mechanism right?
[00:22]<fuffjgzyz>yes /var/run
[00:22]<zazmagaal>uhm
[00:22]<zazmagaal>it's a bit too late at night for me to get my head round mutexes
[00:23]<fuffjgzyz>ipcs -S gives me the max number of allowed sems
[00:23]<fuffjgzyz>semmap says 30 which seems a little to less
[00:25]<fuffjgzyz>if startsthreads is set to 10 and every thread registers a sem. i would soon get out of sem. since apache isnt probably the only process using semaphors, right?
[00:38]<vl77>So, now I got my HP DeskJet 3650 to work with Ghostscript and the hpijs driver. It prints PS files nicely. Now, how do I get it to print pure text files? I suppose I need to convert those to PS and then pass them on to GS? What do I use? a2ps, perhaps? Anything else?
[00:39]<slwnw>pulponair: this is sysV IPC. very few programs use them. and I'm not sure apache2 uses them...
[00:40]<fuffjgzyz>sphex: apache seems to can you explain the difference between the several acceptmutex variants (flock, fnctl etc)
[00:42]<ducjg2j2>ciao all
[00:59]<vl77>Ah, easy. Just pipe a2ps output to gs. Now I can finally use my printer under NetBSD *puh*
[00:59]<wvzrndn>heyho
[01:01]<dzezycssjg>ho ho
[01:06]<anz>anybody in here have any experience with 30gig+ partitions after not being unmounted cleanly, fsck just hangs? i've been fsck'ng one of my two multi-dozen gig partitions now (38gig) for the last hour and it's still on phase 1.. using 3.0.1/i386
[01:06]<anz>(there appears to be no disk activity either)
[01:08]<dyfjsg>odd
[01:09]<wvzrndn>jer: never had this problem...
[01:09]<_ncs_>hello
[01:09]<anz>its weird, the small partitions (/ - 75 meg, /var - 500 meg, etc) are all fine; its' just the two big ones, /usr and /home that hang fsck
[01:09]<anz>err "are all fine" is to mean "fsck works as expected, no hanging"
[01:10]<anz>aha, nm, it apparently locked up the system
[01:10]<anz>hrmm
[01:11]<_ncs_>is netbsd able to run atheros-based wlan card on sparc64 ?
[01:11]<_ncs_>ath_hal and/or ath_pic is/are broken on linux & freebsd sparc64, so it's my last change to make this wifi card work on sun ultra5...
[01:12]<wvzrndn>try it, I think there's some support via the ath binary HAL
[01:12]<wvzrndn>(same than freebsd I think)
[01:12]<sxzmjwfyffzz>anyone here play with netbsd for the DC?
[01:13]<anz>hrmm.. i think i know the problem; the machine only has 64meg of ram, it works fine to a point (first 20 seconds or so the system doesn't lock up) but beyond that, the system actually locks up
[01:13]<drdr>hi, sorry to bug with a newb question: how do I load a kernel module? Unfortunately my windows needs up to 5 minutes for a reboot, so that double-booting is not an option. Without networking I have to access to the manual/google and it looks like I didn't load the sk module ;) ( http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=19642 )
[01:13]<wvzrndn>heh... well, there's no sk module on NetBSD.
[01:13]<wvzrndn>maybe you are using another OS
[01:14]<drdr>aw? I thought there was one %) oh, well, misinformed :/
[01:15]<wvzrndn>jer: could be... I remember some weird problems with fsck_lfs too and a big partition
[01:16]<drdr>so much about relying on http://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-help/2006/04/28/0002.html . Is there a way to get the chip working under NetBSD?
[01:16]<wvzrndn>damg: it's supported by msk(4), but needs to be imported into NetBSD yet (riz@netbsd is working on it)
[01:17]<wvzrndn>there's support for it in OpenBSD...
[01:17]<sxzmjwfyffzz>anyway, anyone familiar with the dreamcast?
[01:18]<drdr>thank you for the information, xtraeme
[01:25]<drdr>ill try to do a netinstall of openbsd ;) rebooting ... cu
[04:00]<sgvggyspzydg>Hi, anyone with ip stack source code knowledge online? I have a question about version differences in ip_input.c (1.1.1.1 vs. 1.229)
[04:05]<p00fytx>SevenIsPrime: well, if it's cvs
[04:05]<p00fytx>1.1.1.1 is the first check in ever
[04:05]<sgvggyspzydg>yep
[04:05]<p00fytx>and 1.229 is quite some time after that
[04:05]<sgvggyspzydg>as documented in "Stevens", correct?
[04:06]<p00fytx>i have no idea who `Stevens' is
[04:06]<sgvggyspzydg>Stevens, "TCP/IP isslustrated", Vol. 2 -- the implementation.
[04:06]<sgvggyspzydg>illustrated of course ...
[04:07]<sgvggyspzydg>the standard reference on TCP/IP
[04:07]<p00fytx>no, as documented in `how cvs works'
[04:07]<vl77>Try http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/cvsbook.html
[04:07]<z_7>is there a way you can randomize the motd? i hvae a script writen, i just dont know where to load it, i dont know where i can place it before it reads the static etc/motd file
[04:07]<sgvggyspzydg>I meant version 1.1.1.1 of the code should be the one that is discussed in the book.
[04:08]<z_7>the script just selects one of the 5 motd files i have
[04:08]<z_7>randomized..
[04:08]<p00fytx>r_6: erm, i think there's a motd in rc.d
[04:08]<p00fytx>or you can stick it in rc.local or in a cron tab
[04:08]<z_7>is there?
[04:08]<p00fytx>as a nightly job
[04:08]<z_7>gotcha..
[04:08]<z_7>so it switches on next reboot?
[04:08]<p00fytx>r_6: i've seen it say `setting up motd' on boot
[04:09]<p00fytx>r_6: if you stick it in cron 0 0 * * * /path/to/your/script
[04:09]<z_7>i figured that out in a way, i can get it to switch on reboot.. i just want to make it where it randomizes on login
[04:09]<p00fytx>will do it at midnight every day
[04:09]<z_7>ahhhhhhh i c..
[04:09]<vl77>r_6: fortune(6) might provide some "interesting" MOTDs.
[04:09]<p00fytx>zero minutes past zero o'clock
[04:09]<z_7>are the stars there for a reason?.. or is that just showing path
[04:09]<p00fytx>r_6: yes
[04:10]<z_7>yea. i was going to rip apart fortune.. and replace it with mine.. but that was a last resort :)
[04:10]<p00fytx>they're for day of month, month of year and day of week
[04:10]<z_7>foolish.. for a reason?.. or path.. im guessing path
[04:10]<z_7>ahh
[04:10]<z_7>gotcha
[04:10]<z_7>just using the wilcard then so it always does it
[04:10]<p00fytx>so on midnight of every day of the year
[04:10]<z_7>gotcha :)
[04:10]<zzzgnjus>r_6: man 5 crontab
[04:10]<z_7>ty.. ill give her a try
[04:10]<p00fytx>hey, there's a man page for that?
[04:11]<zzzgnjus>yes.







