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[12:16]<syz_frwrlur>Haha, could I?
[12:16]<mzrfgyw>or work on a defrag app
[12:16]<mzrfgyw>there is one mostly written
[12:16]<ggajmgm>or a format app
[12:16]<mzrfgyw>(of course it wouldn't work in ROS yet)
[12:17]<syz_frwrlur>encoded, for vfat?
[12:17]<ggajmgm>yeah
[12:17]<syz_frwrlur>That might be an interesting way to wedge myself into the community.
[12:17]<syz_frwrlur>Is ReactOS supporting different filesystem drivers?
[12:17]<ggajmgm>Fireball might have some sugestions ;)
[12:18]<mzrfgyw>Sir_Fawnpug: there is some code on sysinternals you can use to jumpstart it as well
[12:18]<mzrfgyw>for format at least, I think its already in the repo
[12:18]<ggajmgm>theres some code in the repo but it does nothing
[12:18]<fyzn2rff>Hi
[12:18]<syz_frwrlur>Yo
[12:18]<mzrfgyw>Sir_Fawnpug: it will support diff FSs
[12:19]<mzrfgyw>hi Fireball
[12:19]<xljussyg>Sir_Fawnpug, ReactOS is supporting FAT and ISO9660. more will come later
[12:19]<syz_frwrlur>dralnix, ahh, well at the moment I could see if I can't polish that format code for vfat
[12:19]<syz_frwrlur>hpoussin, I was just wondering because I am considering doing developing and thought I might be able to contribute in that area.
[12:21]<syz_frwrlur>And I'm not sure if userland applications are needed, but I am working on a compiler just for fun.
[12:21]<syz_frwrlur>And could port it to reactos once I get going.
[12:22]<ggajmgm>no.. no no, if your app works in windows it should work on ros,if it doesnt ros is broken and needs to be fixed
[12:22]<ggajmgm>there is no such thing as porting to reactos
[12:23]<syz_frwrlur>Ahh, you raise a good point
[12:24]<mzrfgyw>base\system\format
[12:24]<mzrfgyw>its the sysinternals code ;)
[12:26]<syz_frwrlur>Anyway I'll see if I can't get a test box going
[12:27]<syz_frwrlur>And take al ook at the sourcecode sometime toda.y
[12:28]<xljussyg>"porting to reactos" means "try a custom application, search where it fails, and fix the code in reactos" ;)
[12:28]<pxjgyrr>lol
[12:28]<pxjgyrr>hey all
[12:28]<syz_frwrlur>So userland apps aren't a big issue right now?
[12:28]<syz_frwrlur>Well besides the support ones mentioned
[12:29]<xljussyg>which userlands apps?
[12:31]<mzrfgyw>Sir_Fawnpug: if you write code such as defrag or format
[12:31]<mzrfgyw>you make it work in windows
[12:31]<mzrfgyw>then reactos needs to fix itself till it runs
[12:33]<mzrfgyw>well not really fix _itself_ :P
[12:33]<mzrfgyw>but you get the idea
[12:34]<syz_frwrlur>hpoussin, I'm speaking from a broad perspective but things like what a user would use.
[12:34]<syz_frwrlur>But since the aim is to be compatible with windows I can see how it might not be as important as fixing the OS to run windows apps
[12:35]<xljussyg>Sir_Fawnpug, major applications are issues, like Ooo setup not working atm. some strange app used by only 100 people in the world is less an issue
[12:36]<syz_frwrlur>dralnix, well I'll see if I can't come up with a way to test it without totally destroying my filesystem. Truth be told I probably need to read up on how the kernel treats volumes
[12:36]<xljussyg>Sir_Fawnpug, unfortunately, not everybody has the time and the capability to fix the problems
[12:36]<mzrfgyw>Sir_Fawnpug: use a VM to test
[12:37]<syz_frwrlur>hpoussin, well I'm not sure if I have the capability, but I can always learn.
[12:37]<mzrfgyw>with windows in it and ROS
[12:37]<xljussyg>Sir_Fawnpug, if you want to learn, that's always a good start
[12:38]<syz_frwrlur>hpoussin, I could look at the OOo issue, potentially. gdb works on ROS, yeah?
[12:38]<fyzn2rff>what's wrong with OOo, afaik Brezenbak told me yetserday that it works (installer)?
[12:39]<xljussyg>Sir_Fawnpug, reactos has a gdb stub, but i don't know how much it works
[12:39]<ggajmgm>Sir_Fawnpug, if you fix issues like that you will helpros a lot
[12:39]<xljussyg>Ooo problems: http://www.reactos.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&field0-0-0=product&type0-0-0=substring&value0-0-0=open&field0-0-1=component&type0-0-1=substring&value0-0-1=open&field0-0-2=short_desc&type0-0-2=substring&value0-0-2=open&field0-0-3=status_whiteboard&type0-0-3=substring&value0-0-3=open&field1-0-0=product&type1-0-0=substring&value
[12:39]<xljussyg>1-0-0=office&field1-0-1=component&type1-0-1=substring&value1-0-1=office&field1-0-2=short_desc&type1-0-2=substring&value1-0-2=office&field1-0-3=status_whiteboard&type1-0-3=substring&value1-0-3=office
[12:39]<syz_frwrlur>hpoussin, encoded, I'll see what I can do.
[12:39]<xljussyg>oops, long URL ;)
[12:40]<fyzn2rff>hpoussin - thanks a lot
[12:40]<ggajmgm>Sir_Fawnpug, not only OO, other apps i mean
[12:40]<syz_frwrlur>encoded, any apps in particular you think should be fixed?
[12:41]<ggajmgm>apache
[12:41]<syz_frwrlur>OpenSSH work?
[12:41]<bynnnx>apache2
[12:41]<bynnnx>apache 1.3.xx "runs"
[12:41]<xljussyg>encoded, you really want to restart your webserver every 5 minutes?
[12:42]<syz_frwrlur>I can take a look at it
[12:42]<mzrrjgmygmnm>haha
[12:42]<syz_frwrlur>Does apache2 not install or does it crash intermittently?
[12:42]<ggajmgm>hpoussin, show some more faith in ros ;)
[12:42]<mzrrjgmygmnm>hpoussin i had ros running for longer than that in qemu
[12:42]<bynnnx>hpoussin: i own a linux server somewhere on the east coast
[12:42]<bynnnx>because of it runing RHEE
[12:42]<bynnnx>it has to reboot once a day
[12:43]<mzrrjgmygmnm>LOL.
[12:43]<bynnnx>or it just dies
[12:43]<syz_frwrlur>Bizzeh, ouch.
[12:43]<bynnnx>RHEE blows
[12:43]<bynnnx>i advise all to stay away
[12:43]<bynnnx>unlike the cock who said "pay for RHEE, its worth it for the stability and support"
[12:43]<syz_frwrlur>Bizzeh, I learned to stay away from red-hat a long time ago, and that's not even because of stability issues.
[12:44]<bynnnx>what stability? what support?
[12:44]<bynnnx>you pay for the support
[12:44]<bynnnx>the totaly ignore you
[12:44]<bynnnx>"its not a red hat problem"
[12:44]<bynnnx>with EVERYTHING
[12:44]<syz_frwrlur>Bizzeh, thinking about replacing it with another distro?
[12:44]<bynnnx>"the kernel it just auto installed panics on boot" "not a redhat problem"
[12:45]<mzrfgyw>lol
[12:45]<bynnnx>Sir_Fawnpug: cant. technicaly, i only pay for the line, the server is thrown into the deal for free
[12:45]<syz_frwrlur>Haha
[12:45]<syz_frwrlur>Bizzeh, that sucks. How much are you paying for the line?
[12:45]<bynnnx>not alot
[12:45]<bynnnx>:)
[12:46]<bynnnx>shared line, 10/10 between 5 of us
[12:46]<syz_frwrlur>Ahh; I considered a while back renting one of those tek-alchemy boxes and slapping gentoo on there.
[12:46]<bynnnx>it comes out at about £50 each per year
[12:46]<syz_frwrlur>Very nice, what's the line grade?
[12:46]<bynnnx>dunno
[12:46]<bynnnx>i didnt set any of this up
[12:47]<syz_frwrlur>I have for a while been considering one of these http://www.tek.net/catalog/default.php?cPath=21

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