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[00:00]<e0w>i have only one
[00:00]<e0w>:d
[00:00]<e0w>i think
[00:00]<e0w>wait
[00:00]<lnnzan>oops. we use one instance per application database
[00:00]<e0w>let me asking to the DBA
[00:00]<e0w>yes
[00:00]<lnnzan>you start/stop oracle instances with those dbstart/dbshut scripts, but they in turn use the svrmgr or whatever
[00:01]<e0w>all software run in the same instale
[00:01]<e0w>instance
[00:01]<lnnzan>then its all tangled together.
[00:08]<e0w>for kill something in linux i make kill -9 pid
[00:08]<e0w>and solaris how is it ?
[00:09]<ygsjgmyr>same
[00:09]<ygsjgmyr>but.
[00:09]<ryrxvswyd>why -9
[00:09]<ygsjgmyr>I'd do kill -15 first, then kill -9.
[00:09]<e0w>why 15 ?
[00:09]<ygsjgmyr>because most people don't understand signals.
[00:10]<e0w>what make -15 ?
[00:10]<ygsjgmyr>sig 15 asks the program to terminate normally & clean up.
[00:10]<ygsjgmyr>sig 9 can't be held, stopped, or ignored. It's exit immediately.
[00:10]<e0w>ok
[00:10]<ygsjgmyr>very messy.
[00:10]<ygsjgmyr>it's the admin equivalent of a sawed-off shotgun.
[00:11]<wrv>I know it's just a matter of personal taste, but would you make a whole big / on a 146GB disk or you would divide into /var , /tmp, etc. ?
[00:11]<ygsjgmyr>it depends on the application.
[00:11]<wrv>Oracle
[00:11]<wrv>database
[00:11]<ygsjgmyr>split it up
[00:12]<ygsjgmyr>put the individual instances on their own slices
[00:12]<wrv>no, those sit on the SAN
[00:12]<wrv>the local root disk only holds the oracle software and OS
[00:12]<ygsjgmyr>you didn't mention SAN.
[00:12]<ygsjgmyr>lol
[00:12]<wrv>hehe, sorry
[00:12]<ygsjgmyr>I'd still split it up
[00:13]<ygsjgmyr>I split off root, var, and opt typically
[00:13]<ygsjgmyr>mirror and encapsulate root
[00:14]<ygsjgmyr>(and by root, I mean root disk, not just root partition)
[00:15]<vnafj>Yeah there are other root things
[00:15]<vnafj>root beer
[00:16]<vnafj>root ofallevil
[00:16]<aj_z0>Mirror mirror on the disk, who is the failest of them all?
[00:17]<ygsjgmyr>lol
[00:17]<ygsjgmyr>"And no one's gettin' fat except Momma Cass..."
[00:22]<ygsjgmyr>anyone here got Creeque Alley by momma's & the papas on mp3?
[00:24]<aj_z0>As if they'd admit it if they did
[00:24]<ygsjgmyr>do you?
[00:24]<ygsjgmyr>lol
[00:25]<zxzzfyns>insoNMia: I have california dreamin..
[00:27]<aj_z0>No, but I have two Bee Gees CDs in the car changer
[00:27]<ygsjgmyr>hrm.
[00:27]<ygsjgmyr>I think I have california dreamin
[00:29]<crss>insomnia_, oi oi i aint no fattie :-)
[00:30]<ygsjgmyr>Cass: I don't care if you are. I like everyone just the same.
[00:30]<crss>heh
[00:30]<ygsjgmyr>I used to be really fat, now I'm just sorta' fat. lol.
[00:32]<ygsjgmyr>So drink your Gin and Tonica, and smoke your Marijuanica...
[00:41]<e0w>thx ppl the kill dont work i will down the instance
[00:42]<aj_z0>Killing always works, otherwise it's called injuring
[00:42]<ygsjgmyr>what do you mean, the kill won't work?
[00:43]<ygsjgmyr>what are you trying to kill?
[00:43]<ygsjgmyr>god I just wanna' go home.
[00:44]<e0w>insoNMia: nevermind it dont care me much
[00:44]<e0w>i not the admin
[00:44]<e0w>but here have a sun server with oracle
[00:44]<e0w>and nobody have a clue
[00:44]<e0w>about solaris
[00:44]<e0w>i am the tech support guy so
[00:45]<e0w>the dba dont a clue about unix either
[00:45]<e0w>only a few ls and rm
[00:46]<aj_z0>You Dominicans are all the same. You make me sick
[00:47]<fapfjmm>but kill doesn't always work
[00:48]<e0w>sorry about that AJ_Z0
[00:48]<fapfjmm>(especially on linsux when a broken app hangs using the broken NFS)
[00:56]<tjzyg>hi, as i understand, in prstat -size is the memory used by proccess, and rss is swap used ?
[00:57]<ygsjgmyr> SIZE The total virtual memory size of the process, includ-
[00:57]<ygsjgmyr> ing all mapped files and devices, in kilobytes (K),
[00:57]<ygsjgmyr> megabytes (M), or gigabytes (G). The resident set size
[00:57]<ygsjgmyr> of the process (RSS), in kilobytes (K), megabytes (M),
[00:57]<ygsjgmyr> or gigabytes (G).
[01:02]<tjzyg>oO, i missed it, thanks
[01:05]<ygsjgmyr>yup
[01:06]<nnw0zmnz>when was the last Solaris 8 Recommened patch set?
[01:09]<-- rjrvcxrrr xrs fuy>http://www.jpg.com")
[01:11]<fapfjmm>NewOrder: dunno, but pca can tell you which R/S patches are missing on a box
[01:11]<sljgyw>any rsync pros in here ?
[01:13]<nnw0zmnz>I was just going to test the lastest recommended patch set
[01:13]<nnw0zmnz>great.. more work to do
[01:14]<prffjuv>sponix: ask your question.
[01:14]<ygsjgmyr>http://loux.org/kate/resume.html
[01:14]<ygsjgmyr>like the top of that.
[01:15]<ygsjgmyr>Excellent communication and customer relations skills
[01:15]<ygsjgmyr>etc
[01:15]<ygsjgmyr>instead of: Excessive pedantry masquerading as excellent communication skills
[01:15]<ygsjgmyr>you and I find that quirky and funny, but employers don't want quirky and funny.
[01:15]<ygsjgmyr>hah
[01:16]<myjwjzc>are the JES user liceneses perpetual? or per year?

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