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[15:41]<bcfdg>SunOS unknown 5.10 Generic_Patch_118844-30 i86pc i386 i86pc
[15:41]<bcfdg>w00t!
[15:41]<bcfdg>now I just need to figure out how to drive this thing...
[16:36]<bcfdg>boy, this is a lot less simple than apt-get upgrade :)
[16:38]<bcfdg>Should I be expecting freeware stuff like Gnome to register services (e.g. gnome-display-manager)?
[16:39]<cdzyffn>gdm is in the service manager as gdm2-login
[16:39]<xyfn_>IT requires the SA to have a clue. I don't see this as at all a bad thing.
[16:40]<bcfdg>hile_: yes, its just an entirely different set of tools I need to learn; not good or bad, just different
[16:40]<jgggr>hey matt_
[16:41]<jgggr>morning hile_ Cyrille , everyone
[16:41]<xyfn_>heya Jenna
[16:41]<drvv_>hi, does anybody know how i can restrict ports from being forwarded by sshd ?
[16:41]<cdzyffn>hi Jenna.
[16:41]<bcfdg>hm, I seem to have gdm2-login installed, but its not in the "svcs" output
[16:41]<cdzyffn>svcs -a
[16:41]<bcfdg>do I need to run some command to rebuild the svcs database?
[16:41]<bcfdg>ah thanks
[16:41]<bcfdg>its disabled
[16:41]<cdzyffn>there you go, dtlogin is there by default.
[16:41]<bcfdg>will it supersede dtlogin?
[16:42]<bcfdg>if I enable it
[16:42]<xyfn_>Nothing says you have to use CDE using dtlogin
[16:42]<xyfn_>but it works
[16:42]<cdzyffn> /usr/dt/bin/dtlogin -d (to disable dtlogin, or pkill it if you just want to test) then svc enable -s gdm2-login will bring gdm as your greeter of choice.
[16:43]<cdzyffn>and as hile said, you can leave dtlogin and still access a JDS session.
[16:43]<bcfdg>Is there a way to plug (say) Gnome into the dtlogin session list?
[16:43]<bcfdg>I only have CDE and Java Desktop
[16:43]<cdzyffn>yes
[16:44]<cdzyffn> /usr/dt/config is the location of choice
[16:44]<xyfn_>no..
[16:44]<xyfn_>/etc/dt/config
[16:44]<xyfn_>do NOT change things in /usr/dt
[16:44]<cdzyffn>bugger, you're right, my mistake.
[16:44]<xyfn_>and JDS *is* GNOME
[16:44]<cdzyffn>true too.
[16:44]<bcfdg>oh it is?
[16:44]<cdzyffn>but I assumed he wanted another Gnome
[16:44]<cdzyffn>it's Gnome based, yes.
[16:44]<bcfdg>I'd just never heard of Java Desktop Environment
[16:44]<cdzyffn>shame on you ;-)
[16:45]<bcfdg>hm, I have no /etc/dt dir
[16:45]<bcfdg>I guess I need to create it
[16:45]<cdzyffn>well you better make one then
[16:45]<bcfdg>sorry for all the newbish questions
[16:45]<cdzyffn>no problem.
[16:47]<cdzyffn>but man dtlogin and *looking at* (not *writing in*) /usr/dt/config and its files will also give you some useful information.
[16:48]<bcfdg>hm, I seem to have no dtlogin manual page
[16:48]<bcfdg>I did have difficulty installing the documentation when I did my install
[16:48]<bcfdg>the OS installed fine
[16:49]<bcfdg>but then the installer wouldn't accept any of the DVDs I have when asking for the Documentation System
[16:49]<cdzyffn>man -M /usr/dt/man dtlogin
[16:49]<bcfdg>I have most other man pages
[16:49]<bcfdg>is there any config file to set the system-wide MANPATH default?
[16:50]<bcfdg>or do I need to just ensure its set in everyone's environment
[16:50]<bcfdg>e.g. the GNU (?) man command had /etc/manpath.conf or some such
[16:51]<cdzyffn>well you can set environment variables for everyone with /etc/profile
[16:51]<bcfdg>ah, man.cf
[16:57]<q2y_>usability question.. i'm used to using the up and down arrow keys in putty to get the last command, etc. i use them with my new solaris install and get ^[[A
[16:58]<xyfn_>What shell are you using?
[16:58]<q2y_>default
[16:58]<q2y_>sh
[16:58]<xeysjv>hi, i have /dev/rdsk/c1t0d0s{0-7} which are associated with partitions of hdd, but i dont have c1t0d0 associated with whole drive, where i can find it? is it must be in my system?
[16:58]<rsmm>type "bash" ?
[16:59]<mnzywnvxnz>You know, I figured out that issue about 5 minutes after I was introduced to unix, QbY_.
[16:59]<mnzywnvxnz>It's not that hard.
[16:59]<q2y_>bam!
[16:59]<q2y_>Meriwether.. Well we aren't all super humans like you..
[16:59]<mnzywnvxnz>My point is that it doesn't TAKE a super-human.
[16:59]<mnzywnvxnz>Just a thoughtful regular human.
[17:00]<q2y_>yes, i'm a complete and total dumbass. sorry for aggravating you..
[17:00]<q2y_>would you like some cookies and milk?
[17:00]<mnzywnvxnz>Is that what dumbasses do?
[17:00]<mnzywnvxnz>Serve cookies & milk?
[17:00]<q2y_>no, its what we give to crying little taunting children.
[17:01]<mnzywnvxnz>You reward children for throwing a tantrum?
[17:01]<mnzywnvxnz>You really are NOT the sharpest knife in the block.
[17:01]<q2y_>Do you have a point here?
[17:01]<q2y_>Are you in a bad mood?
[17:01]<q2y_>Didn't get any?
[17:02]<q2y_>What?
[17:02]<q2y_>Someone asks a simple question and you feel the need to beat them up
[17:02]<q2y_>Does it make you feel better?
[17:02]<q2y_>You want me to turn on my webcam and shed a tear?
[17:02]<mnzywnvxnz>A little scolding now might make you think before asking next time.
[17:02]<q2y_>So you can feel like a super man?
[17:02]<q2y_>Nah, probably not
[17:02]<mnzywnvxnz>That thick, eh?
[17:02]<q2y_>yep.
[17:03]<mnzywnvxnz>OK, then a warning:
[17:04]<mnzywnvxnz>Do NOT go changing root's shell.
[17:04]<mnzywnvxnz>Do NOT create /root.
[17:05]<q2y_>thanks for the tip
[17:05]<rsmm>Meriwether: never had problem with /root, and I'm not alone
[17:05]<mnzywnvxnz>Next tip: Be prepared that unix != Linux.
[17:06]<mnzywnvxnz>asyd: /root is an excuse for folks who misuse the superuser.
[17:06]<q2y_>Meriwether.. I am quickly learning this fact..
[17:06]<cdzyffn>sure, there's an l at the beginning and the vowels are all swapped ;-)
[17:06]<q2y_>hehehe..

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