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[12:05]<pzvzyac_c>hmm
[12:11]<rdyxry>Patrick_K, 15MB
[12:11]<pzvzyac_c>thank you very much
[12:12]<dzvzsvznzd>15meg, thats a wierd amount
[12:13]<rdyxry>It's what most creator3D series have...
[12:14]<dzvzsvznzd>Im not saying your wrong, its just a wierd amount of ram
[12:14]<rdyxry>Well, yeah...
[12:15]<dzvzsvznzd>not sure what my standard creator card has
[12:15]<dzvzsvznzd>never really botherd to check
[12:20]<rdyxry>It's a pretty slow card... shouldn't matter unless you're doing CAD or PLM or something though...
[12:21]<dzvzsvznzd>yeah, i *think* its only something like 8meg
[12:22]<rdyxry>Oh, maybe you don't have a Creator3D, just a Creator (2D)
[12:23]<dzvzsvznzd>yeah
[12:23]<dzvzsvznzd>it just came in the creator U2 i bought
[12:23]<rdyxry>Let me see.. I think ffbconfig -prconf should tell you
[12:23]<pzvzyac_c>hmm i just want to use it for normal use, play with the system (also known as configuring), console, web etc.
[12:23]<rdyxry>Then you needn't care :)
[12:24]<pzvzyac_c>the card in my u10 is also a creator 3D and it's a kind of slow at the 21" sun crt
[12:24]<pzvzyac_c>mostly based on my transparent gnome console
[12:24]<rdyxry>Higher resolutions need more memroy...
[12:24]<dzvzsvznzd>the card i have has never been slow on normal configuring on my 21" moniter, i have watched a movie on it as well
[12:24]<rdyxry>memory
[12:24]<pzvzyac_c>i know
[12:25]<rdyxry>Hm.. maybe it's just your gnome that's slow
[12:25]<pzvzyac_c>DataStream: the u10 is ...*urks* 300 mhz at 256 mb ram only
[12:25]<rdyxry>That card should be fine for movies and stuff, even and high resolutions...
[12:25]<rdyxry>Erm, it's not the cards fault then :)
[12:26]<dzvzsvznzd>ahh my U2 is dual 300mhz with 1gig ram
[12:26]<pzvzyac_c>but i've bought another machine yesterday... u60, dual 300mhz, 512 mb, creator 3D, scsi hd
[12:26]<pzvzyac_c>hehe the machine before i
[12:27]<pzvzyac_c>have bought was a really nice on, hp c3700 pa risc 750 mhz, 2 gig ram, 36 gig sca scsi, 64 mb hp fx 5 pro
[12:27]<dzvzsvznzd>is the U60 sca?
[12:27]<dzvzsvznzd>i assume yes
[12:28]<pzvzyac_c>scsi ack, sca no
[12:28]<dzvzsvznzd>oh
[12:28]<pzvzyac_c>68 lvd
[12:28]<dzvzsvznzd>ok
[12:30]<dzvzsvznzd>im looking for a pair of U2's at the mo
[12:30]<dzvzsvznzd>doesnt really matter what spec as long as they are the same
[12:31]<dzvzsvznzd>Patrick_K: how much was that c3700?
[12:31]<dzvzsvznzd>i mean are they expensive
[12:32]<pzvzyac_c>not much
[12:32]<pzvzyac_c>130
[12:32]<pzvzyac_c>euro
[12:33]<pzvzyac_c>plus shipping (shipping was about 10 or 12 euro
[12:33]<dzvzsvznzd>Hmm 1 on ebay.co.uk for 450 pounds buy it now
[12:33]<pzvzyac_c>link?
[12:33]<dzvzsvznzd>looks like you did well if you only paid 130 for it
[12:34]<dzvzsvznzd>http://computers.search.ebay.co.uk/hp-c3700_Computing_W0QQfkrZ1QQfromZR8QQsacatZ58058
[12:34]<dzvzsvznzd>supports upto 8gig ram
[12:34]<dzvzsvznzd>not a bad looking machine
[12:34]<pzvzyac_c>but keep in mind
[12:34]<pzvzyac_c>on such machine only hp-ux is really running
[12:35]<dzvzsvznzd>yeah, how old is that machine?
[12:35]<dzvzsvznzd>i mean when did they EOL them
[12:35]<pzvzyac_c>linux could also run but if you need X you need to get a matrox millenium (pci) card
[12:35]<pzvzyac_c>afaik was the time of such machines 2002/2003
[12:36]<pzvzyac_c>(looks old) but the machine is faster than my amd ahtlon xp 1700+ with 1.5 gb ram
[12:36]<dzvzsvznzd>i have a old matrox millenim card, with 16meg ram, still expensive now, as it has the rainbow box with it, so its all used for photography and video editing
[12:36]<dzvzsvznzd>g500 i think it is
[12:36]<dzvzsvznzd>although its not pci
[12:37]<pzvzyac_c>need to have pci
[12:37]<dzvzsvznzd>Patrick_K: ahh so its not a old machine
[12:37]<dzvzsvznzd>i mean the U2 is like 10 years old
[12:37]<pzvzyac_c>hehe
[12:37]<dzvzsvznzd>but it still holds its own in the desktop
[12:38]<pzvzyac_c>ack but hp-ux isn't my favorite
[12:38]<dzvzsvznzd>i have never used it, but i would like to give it a try
[12:39]<dzvzsvznzd>but im not willing to pay 450 pounds :P
[12:39]<dzvzsvznzd>just to see what its like
[12:39]<pzvzyac_c>who much are 450 pounds in euro?
[12:39]<pzvzyac_c>do you know?
[12:39]<dzvzsvznzd>mabey 500
[12:39]<dzvzsvznzd>no sorry
[12:39]<dzvzsvznzd>mabey 400
[12:39]<dzvzsvznzd>hold on il check
[12:40]<pzvzyac_c>foo that's really too much
[12:40]<dzvzsvznzd>www.xe.com
[12:40]<dzvzsvznzd>all you need :)
[12:40]<dzvzsvznzd>shit
[12:41]<dzvzsvznzd>450 pounds = 653 euros
[12:41]<dzvzsvznzd>thought it was the other way, never used euro's
[12:42]<rdyxry>Try expressing that in $ :)
[12:42]<dzvzsvznzd>yeah dollars it will be about 900 or something
[12:42]<dzvzsvznzd>837
[12:42]<rdyxry>hehe
[12:43]<dzvzsvznzd>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9719005299&ssPageName=MERC_VI_ReBay_Pr4_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT#
[12:43]<dzvzsvznzd>thats not a bad price
[12:43]<dzvzsvznzd>(just need the 4800 to go with it) :P
[12:43]<dzvzsvznzd>always wanted one
[12:44]<dzvzsvznzd>although i would prefur the one above so it took USIV procs
[12:44]<dzvzsvznzd>but would love to play with domains
[12:44]<pzvzyac_c>hmm
[12:44]<pzvzyac_c>DataStream: where are you from?
[12:44]<pzvzyac_c>great britain?
[12:44]<dzvzsvznzd>london
[12:44]<dzvzsvznzd>yes
[12:45]<pzvzyac_c>oki fine, i've checked a the "change course" or how ever it's calle
[12:45]<pzvzyac_c>d

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