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[00:01]<rnnc2jy>Yamaraj: That's a rather dated article there...
[00:02]<yzdzzza>Yeah, but it addresses the problem I'm having. And, at least Jonathan was trying to do something about it back then.
[00:07]<ajzryvjww>when doing /usr/sbin/devfsadm -r /a -Csnv i got lots of "no devfs node or mismatched dev_t for /a/devices/blabla"
[00:12]<yzdzzza>Myths, Lies, and Truths about the Linux kernel: http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/ols_2006_keynote.html
[00:16]<yzdzzza>Another World domination, Herr Linus?
[00:25]<lnnzan>that closed source driver thing is a two edged sword. net effect is to kill support for heavily software based proprietary devices such as broadcom wireless in favor of more expensive hardware that implements the vendors IP in microcode rather than drivers.
[00:26]<yzdzzza>Right!
[00:27]<lnnzan>what was the one that fried me... they dropped support for using /proc to issue commands to qlogic FC HBAs and left no way to scan for new LUNs.
[00:28]<ygsjgmyr>ORLY?
[00:28]<yzdzzza>The curse of ever changing driver model.
[00:29]<lnnzan>there was some vague promise of a future driver using a /sys interface to do the same thing.... great, but I need to support SAN *now* without having to reboot each time I add a LUN
[00:29]<ygsjgmyr>you don't.
[00:29]<ygsjgmyr>cfgadm -al then cfgadm -c configure <device>
[00:29]<ygsjgmyr>devfsadm -C
[00:30]<lnnzan># cfgadm -?
[00:30]<lnnzan>sh: cfgadm: command not found
[00:30]<ygsjgmyr>sppmd531:# which cfgadm
[00:31]<lnnzan>i'm talking about linux 2.6
[00:31]<yzdzzza>lol
[00:32]<ggjmygmgz>yup
[00:32]<ggjmygmgz>oh
[00:32]<ggjmygmgz>linux
[00:32]<ggjmygmgz>fuck linux
[00:32]<yzdzzza>lol again.
[00:33]<ygsjgmyr>oh.
[00:33]<ygsjgmyr>fuck linux.
[00:33]<ygsjgmyr>fuck it in the ass with a big rubber dick.
[00:33]<ygsjgmyr>then break it off and beat Linus with the rest of it.
[00:33]<rrmnsm>peerce, the linux reboot routines are highly tuned to process reboots, perhaps only second to windows in the amount of testing did on them
[00:33]<ygsjgmyr>lol
[00:33]<ygsjgmyr>james isn't biased. no, not him.
[00:33]<ygsjgmyr>lol
[00:33]<ygsjgmyr>:)
[00:33]<rrmnsm>of course the crash routines are highly tested as well..
[00:44]<ajc_z0>Lunix sucks for stability. Take one group of hosts here: one of them has only been doing production work for 1170 days, instead of the 1224 days the other 19 have, ie. since they were all put into production
[00:44]<ajc_z0>Linux can't even stop hardware from failing
[00:47]<ygsjgmyr>BLACK RAGE!
[00:49]<ygsjgmyr>http://www.zmag.org/chomsky/sam/sam-contents.html
[00:49]<ygsjgmyr>you all should read this.
[00:49]<ajc_z0>See the last episode of "Minoriteam"?
[01:00]<lnnzan>insomnia; have you seen 'Why We Fight' ? excellent documentary on the US war machine, from Eisenhowers famous 'military industrial complex' warning forward to today.
[01:14]<djavjz_d>peerce, I saw that in Chicago... well done documentary
[01:20]<cfnllzzyy>solaris 10 + jetty 6 + dwr 2.0, expecting ~100k connections
[01:20]<cfnllzzyy>what kind of box would do the job?
[01:22]<lnnzan>100k connections per what interval? (not that I even know what jetty or dwr are offhand)
[01:22]<cfnllzzyy>100k connections at any given time
[01:23]<rrmnsm>klepparii, t2000 or a pair of them.
[01:24]<lnnzan>100000 simulataneous connections? you'll run out of sockets
[01:25]<lnnzan>I'd guess you'd need a webfarm cluster of a couple dozen boxes with a F5 bigIP in front, and you'll still be struggling.
[01:29]<lnnzan>how much memory for the context data for each active session?
[01:29]<rrmnsm>might help if you put a proxy infront of the boxes to selve static and data that doesn't change much.
[01:29]<rrmnsm>er serve static
[01:46]<rrmnsm>hi ericb and g4lt-U60
[01:46]<r9fv-u70>hihi
[02:08]<dz2zjajfy>i want to install the free solaris so i can test my stuff for solaris (ie, it should have what a "common", real world installation of solaris would have).. which distribution should i pick?
[02:09]<rrmnsm>solaris express community build.
[02:10]<dz2zjajfy>ok!
[02:11]<xzgzj_vygaggv>nexenta os
[02:11]<xzgzj_vygaggv>;)
[02:12]<dyfnc>hi
[02:12]<xzgzj_vygaggv>i wrote the wikipedia article myself too.. the screenshot is mine but isnt the default gtk theme or background
[02:18]<ddzczzvnzc>Xaero_Vincent: link?
[02:20]<xzgzj_vygaggv>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexenta_OS
[02:21]<rrmnsm>"real world installation of solaris would have" != nexenta
[02:21]<rrmnsm>nexenta == ubuntu/debian userland on top of a solaris kernel
[02:21]<xzgzj_vygaggv>yes
[02:21]<xzgzj_vygaggv>Ubuntu GNU/SunOS basically
[02:22]<rrmnsm>never mind i confused myrkraverk with mrbrocoli
[02:23]<ddzczzvnzc>jamesd: so I look like broccoli?
[02:23]<rrmnsm>yes you do
[02:23]<ddzczzvnzc>oh, k
[02:23]<xzgzj_vygaggv>mmmm broccoli.
[02:24]<ddzczzvnzc>Xaero_Vincent: hmm, nexenta seems like herecy to me :P
[02:25]<xzgzj_vygaggv>i dont understand what u mean
[02:25]<mnfnwys>Xaero_Vincent: combining a broken userland with a sane kernel, I think is what he was aiming at.
[02:26]<mnfnwys>whatever floats your boat, man.
[02:28]<xzgzj_vygaggv>it uses OpenSolaris low-level userland and drivers and stuff.. but 12,000 packages of GNU software beats anyother Solaris distro
[02:30]<mnfnwys>you think 12,000 packages of GNU software is a "good thing" for the world?
[02:30]<mnfnwys>(plus, its not really GNU software, as that would imply it is all official GNU software)
[02:31]<mnfnwys>we live in a crazy world, I suppose.
[02:34]<xzgzj_vygaggv>not to crazy.. i mean there is Debian GNU/FreeBSD & NetBSD.. its kinda like that
[02:41]<dzvzsvznzd>Dam traffic was a bitch :@/
[02:41]<dzvzsvznzd>nothing worse then sitting in traffic
[02:44]<rrmnsm>DataStream, you could of sat at work for another 5 hours...
[02:45]<dzvzsvznzd>at least i would have had a machine, or somewhere to sleep :P
[02:46]<dzvzsvznzd>although seeing as i have slept for a ridiculas amount of hours today, i suppose it would have just been a movie night
[02:57]<rrmnsm>we have to expect little things like this, he's canadian ;-p
[02:57]<dzvzsvznzd>heh
[03:52]<ggjmygmgz>snakes on an applebees!
[04:06]<zjmzyac2zjwg>http://rodrickbrown.com/blog/?p=73 say no to gfs :-)
[05:25]<bzrmm>hi guys.. can solaris 9 (sparc) be installed via the serial port?
[05:25]<xyfn_>sure
[05:25]<xyfn_>people put framebuffers in machines?

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