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[00:00]<agguya>czubin: your zmd DB might be hosed
[00:00]<szzgjfm>cenuij: heh, i knew what you meant :) I thought it was quite nice.
[00:00]<aeu2yg>cenuij: someway to actually delete my zmd DB? and restart fresh? :D
[00:00]<agguya>czubin: yeah
[00:00]<djzrjvxq7>i just am not sure if the advantage is there if i already have a working instalation of fedora.... not sure if the differancer is great enough to spend a few hrs getting suse working
[00:00]<djzrjvxq7>know what i mean?
[00:00]<szzgjfm>cenuij: my only suggestion is to point out: man -k aa- :)
[00:01]<mnzwj2>morgoth26: nope, I don't know what you mean.
[00:01]<agguya>sarnold: ah yeah good point i'll do an update, thx :)
[00:01]<szzgjfm>cenuij: w00t :)
[00:01]<aeu2yg>cenuij: share it with me ?
[00:01]<agguya>czubin: you should be able to just delete the db files and keep your sources setup etc
[00:02]<aeu2yg>cenuij: ah
[00:02]<agguya>czubin: sec, i'll try it on one of my virtual machines
[00:02]<djzrjvxq7>well i work at a major company and the fact that we need all our comps working and all are the same comp... we have fedora installed i thought the advantages of apparmour would make suse a better choice but to spend about 3 hrs per comp for set up may mean it will be a 2 day job to do all the comps
[00:03]<agguya>czubin: ok you can delete /var/lib/zmd/package-history.db and /var/lib/zmd/zmd.db
[00:03]<mnzwj2>morgoth26: are all the computers the same, hardware wise?
[00:03]<djzrjvxq7>ya about 10 of them... all duel core
[00:03]<agguya>czubin: then restart zmd and it will rebuild those db files from the rpm db
[00:04]<djzrjvxq7>4400 AMD X2
[00:04]<mnzwj2>morgoth26: read up on disk imaging, or cloning
[00:04]<djzrjvxq7>oh so make one install working then use that as an image for them all?
[00:04]<agguya>czubin: you should be patient when it restarts, takes a while before a zmd maintenace is run and your installed packages are registered
[00:04]<aeu2yg>cenuij: heh I'm doing a fresh install just to be sure (this thing is biting my ass for a week now)
[00:04]<mnzwj2>morgoth26: yeah
[00:04]<djzrjvxq7>humm that may be a good idea
[00:04]<djzrjvxq7>okay should i use the 64 bit or the 32bit
[00:04]<szzgjfm>morgoth26: a friend used a tool, "rssh", a few years ago, to easily perform identical operations on a dozen hosts, when he got tired of doing: for host in duck1 duck2 duck3 .. ; do ssh $host "command" ; done over and over...
[00:04]<djzrjvxq7>and is there a major diff
[00:05]<djzrjvxq7>and could that be causing the problems with things
[00:05]<mnzwj2>sarnold: rssh is a nice tool, but that would still require morgoth26 to do an install on every machine and configure it with rssh, etc
[00:05]<aeu2yg>cenuij: I meant delete packages , delete db , and do update from dvd :)
[00:05]<szzgjfm>derxob: too true, i -hate- doing machine installs...
[00:06]<djzrjvxq7>also are there wierless drivers for suse? since they all have dlink nic cards?
[00:06]<mzmpnzznv>laters
[00:06]<djzrjvxq7>that is a must and i can not seem to find info if it is there
[00:06]<djzrjvxq7>and have not got to the point of testing
[00:07]<lrycrg>Hi all
[00:07]<maasaz_>lol, good luck morg
[00:08]<lrycrg>does someone know why amarok 1.4 package for suse 9.3 has been compild without ipod support?
[00:08]<maasaz_>ive never had good luck with wireless cards and linux in general
[00:08]<spyn>paikan: how did you install it?
[00:08]<lrycrg>using yast
[00:08]<lrycrg>supplementary kde
[00:08]<djzrjvxq7>ya... i had got them working with xandros but not perfectly
[00:08]<lrycrg>official
[00:08]<spyn>paikan: grab the rpm from guru source
[00:08]<maasaz_>is it me, or is the internet install of Suse troublesome as hell?
[00:09]<spyn>!ftpinstall
[00:09]<susnxnfl> Follow instructions at http://spinink.net/2005/12/18/suse-linux-network-install/ and also check out http://www.opensuse.org/Installation_Help
[00:09]<spyn>!guru-mirror
[00:09]<susnxnfl>A very fast mirror site for suser-guru's RPM repository can be found here: http://suser-guru.mirrors.skynet.be/pub/suser-guru/
[00:09]<lrycrg>sPiN: ok thanks :) but the support has been voluntarily omitted?
[00:10]<sxygrcu>Hey guys
[00:10]<sxygrcu>I'm thinking of moving to SuSE 10.1 from Ubuntu.. is there is a noticable difference between the 32 and 64 bit to warrent installing it?
[00:10]<spyn>paikan: dont know about that one way or the other.. it is possible the person that built the package was just unware...
[00:11]<sxygrcu>my machine is an athlon 64 3000+, 512mb DDR, Geforce FX 5200 128mb
[00:11]<spyn>Shinaku: it works very well, i would suggest it
[00:11]<sxygrcu>with a VIA SATA controller
[00:11]<sxygrcu>really?
[00:11]<ygpymnf>so basicly i have to recompile my kernel and remove agp support for the ati drivers to stop crashing, right?
[00:11]<spyn>suse was the first OS to market with 64bit os
[00:11]<sxygrcu>I remember having problems with closed source plugins like Flash Player on Ubuntu x64 (but this was 4.04 when I tried it last)
[00:12]<spyn>infidel: huh?
[00:12]<spyn>Shinaku: if you get the non-oss version, you will get java and flash out of the box
[00:12]<ygpymnf>sPiN: from ati's website it says agp must be inactive and the modules removed or it could cause problems
[00:13]<lrycrg>sPiN: can I add this mirror you gave to yast?
[00:13]<spyn>infidel: i never read that...
[00:13]<spyn>paikan: point it to 9.3
[00:13]<ygpymnf>sPiN: is there an easy way to do this?
[00:13]<ygpymnf>n order to use the fglrx internal AGP support, you have to make sure that the kernel agpgart support is not active, i.e. it is not compiled into the kernel and the kernel modules are not loaded.
[00:14]<lrycrg>is it safe to give the priority to this repository prior than official one?
[00:14]<ygpymnf>https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.24.8-inst.html
[00:14]<spyn>certainly infidel
[00:14]<svrg-wxyvpynfm>SLES9 installed the SMP kernel by default and I need to change back to the uni-proc kernel. Is it safe to just check the uni checkbox and uncheck the smp checkbox, and then reboot? Or is there anything else I need to do?
[00:15]<-- svgvsdyzgjvr xrs>/dev/null")
[00:15]<ygpymnf>sPiN: what's the easy way?
[00:15]<svrg-wxyvpynfm>Check boxes in yast setup that is.
[00:15]<spyn>what card do you have?
[00:15]<ygpymnf>9250
[00:15]<spyn>stan-whitfield: what processor?
[00:15]<ygpymnf>do'h!
[00:16]<svrg-wxyvpynfm>sPiN: single
[00:16]<spyn>stan-whitfield: does it have HT?
[00:16]<sxygrcu>so, the only difference between the opensource and unfree versions of SuSE are a couple of plugins and some documentation?
[00:17]<spyn>non gpl stuff...
[00:17]<svrg-wxyvpynfm>sPiN: pretend for a moment that I know exactly why I need the uniprocessor kernel, and that I'm right. Now, what are the necessary steps to swap to the uni kernel?
[00:17]<maasaz_>doh, i cant connect to any of the ftp links for the network install
[00:18]<spyn>stan-whitfield: ive never seen it improperly detect the kernel so ive never had to..
[00:18]<spyn>might be able to uninstall one and install the other./..
[00:18]<2yff-2zzzynzn>ht is considered insecure
[00:18]<ygpymnf>sPiN: do i have to go through the whole process in suse?
[00:19]<spyn>dont know
[00:19]<ygpymnf>fair enough
[00:19]<agguya>sarnold: do you have a blog?
[00:19]<maasaz_>the only reason im trying to install 10.1 again is that when i upgraded from 10.0 to 10.1 everything got messed up
[00:19]<2ufggv_jcv>infidel: installing the new kernel in yast should do the trick
[00:19]<szzgjfm>cenuij: no, i don't
[00:19]<agguya>ok
[00:19]<maasaz_>cant use kde or gnome or yast or anything







