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[12:00]<[cxrdgfgjg]>does anyone have experience with hipergate(.org)?
[14:50]<yejeejfgycjv>hi!
[14:50]<yejeejfgycjv>how can i verify valid client certficate in Tomcat... wit APR?
[16:03]<sgupp>Is there a built in way that a servlet could find out information in the Document Object Model?
[16:05]<swggvg>Snuff: in the browser's dom?
[16:06]<sgupp>Yes the information in the browsers dom.
[16:06]<sgupp>I am currently using a trick where I respond with a page containg a refresh tag and some scripts. I am wondering if there is simpler way?
[16:07]<swggvg>probably not
[16:07]<swggvg>the servlet can't ask the browser, the servlet can just respond in a way telling browserside-scripts what to "request" next [giving the servlet some information]
[16:09]<sgupp>Pity. Thats what I am doing and I am making the process going quick with the refresh value in a meta tag.
[16:09]<sgupp>I thought I should check to make sure I wasn't making things unnecassarily complicated.
[16:09]<swggvg>:)
[16:10]<sgupp>Do you know of AJAX could help me?
[16:11]<swggvg>i'm not "in" ajax, but the basic ajax fundamentals [js-libs] contain classes/scripts for performing requests asynchronously in the background (which should help you), and for e.g. parsing xml-data (responses), which also might be helpful
[16:27]<sgupp>Ajax request/response cycles must still be initiated at the browser end though. Is this correct?
[16:27]<swggvg>yes
[16:28]<swggvg>luckily javascript is not allowed to create server-sockets ;-)
[16:32]<sgupp>Why is that lucky? Is security the problem?
[18:04]<bfugzymzg_wjzc>okay, dumb question: where do System.out.println statements get printed to? I've checked the servlet log and server log...
[18:08]<r2rfygv>catalina.out? localhost-xxx.log?
[18:10]<xzzljjg>BlueAidan_work: no where
[18:10]<xzzljjg>there is no STDOUT in a servletcontext
[18:11]<xzzljjg>get log-handler from the ServletContext
[18:11]<xzzljjg>write your info to there
[18:11]<bfugzymzg_wjzc>hmm
[18:13]<bfugzymzg_wjzc>nvm
[18:14]<xzzljjg>System.out is the standard output. normally the console or the terminal, where you have startet your application
[18:15]<xzzljjg>the problem here is. the application is your servletcontainer not the servlet
[18:20]<swggvg>Snuff: mmh yes, and problems with firewalls and-so-on.. :)
[18:48]<nkzzjd>Is the JSTL implementation included with the tomcat 5.5 distribution?
[19:00]<nkzzjd>The answer is, it is not.
[20:34]<2dcvn>hi, what's the recommended version of tomcat?
[20:35]<r2rfygv>5.5?
[20:36]<2dcvn>jbalint, erm why not 4.1.31 since it's also stable? why 5.5 may i ask?
[20:36]<r2rfygv>its more recent
[20:36]<r2rfygv>why would i use oracle 10, if oracle 8 is stable?
[20:37]<r2rfygv>why would i use java 1.5 if java 1.3 is stable?
[20:37]<2dcvn>ah ok makes sense
[20:37]<r2rfygv>i think the main reason is new features
[22:28]<djrvx>anyone have any quick ideas as to why the admin page wouldn't show up on a fresh tomcat55 intallation?
[22:30]<vygsn>moath: cuz they stopped including the admin page?
[22:30]<vygsn>or am i thinking of the manager app?
[22:31]<djrvx>admin seemed to be there on another box
[22:31]<djrvx>might not be the amnager
[22:31]<djrvx>i turned on debugging and it says "no host matches server name"
[22:31]<djrvx>ahh
[22:31]<djrvx>wel
[22:31]<djrvx>no ahh
[22:31]<vygsn>i see ...
[22:37]<slrnsajw2jd>does anyone have any experience moving a webapp from JRun to Tomcat? I'm getting a bunch of errors and don't even know where to start..
[22:39]<r2rfygv>yeah, lets see em
[22:44]<slrnsajw2jd>org.apache.jasper.JasperException: Unable to compile class for JSP
[22:44]<slrnsajw2jd>that's the main one, occurs on 4 of the pages
[22:46]<slrnsajw2jd>the ones that dont return that are due to a custom tag library: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com.evocative.util.Parameters java.lang.Class.initializeClass() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
[22:54]<r2rfygv>Why are you using GCJ!?
[22:57]<slrnsajw2jd>erm
[22:57]<slrnsajw2jd>hehe
[22:57]<slrnsajw2jd>default install
[22:58]<slrnsajw2jd>i have jdk installed... but not sure how to configure tomcat for it... i tried to change the java_home path set in tomcat5.conf but that's apparently not enough
[23:00]<r2rfygv>your $PATH or $JAVA_HOME env vars
[23:00]<slrnsajw2jd>i changed those.. and then restarted and got some error.. just a sec
[23:03]<slrnsajw2jd>Starting tomcat5: /usr/bin/rebuild-jar-repository: error: could not find jdbc-stdext Java extension for this JVM
[23:03]<slrnsajw2jd>followed by 5 similar errors
[23:21]<-- dvxn|syzzzyus xzs>http://www.bagdadsoftware.de")
[23:33]<-- rjrvcxrrr xrs fuy>http://www.jpg.com")
[23:47]<ajgsgg>hi
[23:48]<ajgsgg>i wanted to install tomcat and got error build failed target built does not exist in project
[23:48]<ajgsgg>i mean target build
[23:48]<ajgsgg>can anyone help me?
[23:49]<rrsjg2>Which OS brand & version? Which Java brand & version? Which exact version of Tomcat?
[23:50]<ajgsgg>windows xp java ee sdk
[23:50]<ajgsgg>tomcat 5.5.17
[23:50]<rrsjg2>Download the graphical installer for XP and install it.
[23:52]<rrsjg2>Also, you need Java SE (Standard Edition), or JRE (Java Runtime Environment)
[23:52]<rrsjg2>(not Java EE)
[23:52]<r2rfygv>You need JDK though, right? For JSP compilation?
[23:52]<rrsjg2>Wrong.
[23:52]<rrsjg2>Tomcat comes with a bundled Eclipse JDT compiler.
[23:53]<r2rfygv>Ok, cool.
[23:53]<rrsjg2>(as of Tomcat 5.5)
[23:53]<slrnsajw2jd>jasonb: eclipse's compiler is a little funky though right
[23:53]<ajgsgg>i have java se
[23:53]<rrsjg2>spaescowboy: Just slightly, and most people have no trouble with it at all.
[23:54]<rrsjg2>spaescowboy: The JDT compiler is actually pretty good, I must admit.
[23:54]<slrnsajw2jd>just before you entered, jbalint seemed incredulous about me using it
[23:54]<rrsjg2>spaescowboy: Eclipse itself? Or the JDT compiler?
[23:55]<slrnsajw2jd>the compiler
[23:55]<ajgsgg>where to get graphical installer for xp?
[23:55]<rrsjg2>Nah, there's really nothing major wrong with it. There are very few Java 1.5 features that are not yet 100% supported, but almost.
[23:56]<slrnsajw2jd>hmm
[23:56]<rrsjg2>jonsen: tomcat.apache.org.
[23:57]<rrsjg2>spaescowboy: I've seen startingly few complaints about it not being able to compile JSP source. I've been quite surprised about that.
[23:57]<slrnsajw2jd>hmm.. ok..

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