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[01:36]<rrdnjfr>how does one kill buffers?
[01:36]<xgg0g>YES!!!
[01:36]<xgg0g>I DID IT!!!
[01:36]<xgg0g>its ugly, but it works
[01:36]<rrdnjfr>:close just puts them "in the background"
[01:36]<xgg0g>and doesnt involve major redraws, so not too slow...
[01:36]<xgg0g>Iabbr fld <C-o>:filetype indent off<cr><C-o>:set formatoptions-=r indentexpr= autoindent<cr>// {{{ <:description><cr><cr><><cr><cr>// }}}<C-o>:set formatoptions+=r noautoindent<cr><C-o>:filetype indent on<cr><C-o>:filetype detect<cr>
[01:37]<xgg0g>is that ugly, or is that ugly...
[01:37]<rvfjgmjgj>jayeola: :bd ?
[01:37]<rrdnjfr>ty!
[01:38]<rvfjgmjgj>Xen0n: what where you trying to do?
[01:39]<rvfjgmjgj>Xen0n: forget it I see it in the log
[01:39]<xgg0g>avlondono, setting up abbreviations :D
[01:39]<xgg0g>for a the snippetsEmu script
[01:39]<xgg0g>that one is for inserting a 'marker' fold...
[01:40]<xgg0g>but i was having trouble when i was doing it inside a class...
[01:49]<rrdnjfr>avlondono: ty :) :bd!6
[01:49]<rrdnjfr>hehe
[02:18]<pfrsdrhh>whoops closed too much windows... can I somehow restart/reset/reload vim, so that it just reads in the settings with current windows still open?
[02:28]<vzyguw>fuzzy
[03:11]<pfrsdrhh>hm, can I somehow "remove" the HiLink s?
[03:16]<rvfjgmjgj>the HiLink s?
[03:16]<rvfjgmjgj>???
[03:16]<mgzdgy>Reset the highlight involved to something else?
[03:17]<vwjrsjgwv>is there any way to globally disable collapsed code blocks?
[03:17]<vwjrsjgwv>for example, I have fluxbox syntax installed, and it collapses the menu sections when editting them
[03:17]<vwjrsjgwv>this annoys me to no and and I don't want them in the first place
[03:17]<vwjrsjgwv>any configuration option that will just ignore them while preserving syntax coloring and all that?
[03:18]<mgzdgy>Change the value of foldmethod.
[03:18]<mgzdgy>Or set foldlevel.
[03:18]<pfrsdrhh>hm, already got it, was looking for the wrong thing... somehow public: stuff isnt properly highlighted, probably because of the : part :/
[03:18]<vwjrsjgwv>set foldlevel=0 ?
[03:18]<rvfjgmjgj>or better :set nofen
[03:18]<vwjrsjgwv>avlondono, thanks
[03:19]<vwjrsjgwv>woot
[03:19]<vwjrsjgwv>thanks much
[03:22]<pfrsdrhh>hm,Im somehow lost with this... how can I get "public:" as cppAccess in the syntax highlighting?
[03:50]<rrgdjd>is there a way to use proportional fonts with vim?
[03:52]<cnzrjvx>*gasp*
[03:53]<rrgdjd>what?
[03:53]<vvdt7>wasnt there a truetype option in the latest ion3 gentoo ebuild?
[03:54]<ndjwy>Random: use wordprocessor if you want proportional fonts
[03:54]<cnzrjvx>tty56: probably, i'm sure they use that branch. i dont use gentoo, but i apply the patch from that branch to use xft. sooo nice.
[03:55]<ndjwy>there are some peoples' preferences that I found *realy* strange
[03:55]<vvdt7>really?? i love my tiny little proportional unaliased glyphs ;)
[03:55]<pfrsdrhh>I met lots of people who want proportional fonts in vim
[03:56]<cnzrjvx>tty56: the key is to make sure you have xft using the correct hinting, otherwise it can look blurry.
[03:56]<cnzrjvx>tty56: http://kergoth.com/vim_002.png shows usage of it
[03:56]<rrgdjd>Nyoxi: why doesn't vim allow it
[03:56]<rrgdjd>i don't want stuff like bold or italic - just a proportional font for editing
[03:56]<pfrsdrhh>Random: vim wasnt designed for it
[03:56]<rrgdjd>a good text editor that uses a proportional font would be nice
[03:57]<pfrsdrhh>notepad
[03:57]<jnzu2>proportional font.
[03:57]<vvdt7>mhh if there was hinting only, that would be ok... that is only antialiasing at 1 pixel..
[03:57]<rrgdjd>you could use gj and gk to move up and down with the visual position, j and k move to the same character on the line
[03:57]<jnzu2>you mean, not fixed width?
[03:57]<rrgdjd>
[03:57]<rrgdjd>Jerub: yes
[03:57]<jnzu2>yuuuck.
[03:57]<rrgdjd>there is no reason vim needs a proportional font :P
[03:57]<rrgdjd>*fixed
[03:57]<pfrsdrhh>kergoth: whats that thingie on the right of that screenshot?
[03:58]<ndjwy>Random: wouldn't be moving up and down a little bit confusing?
[03:58]<cnzrjvx>taglist is the right window, vtreeexplorer is the left
[03:58]<pfrsdrhh>Random: there is, so the characters line up horizontally as well as vertically ;)
[03:58]<vvdt7>kergoth: too blurry for me ;)
[03:58]<rrgdjd>Nyoxi: it's confusing now with wrapped lines - that's what gk and gj are for
[03:58]<rrgdjd>PlasmaHH: and why do i need the characters to line up when editing a text file?
[03:58]<ndjwy>what would proportional font change?
[03:58]<cnzrjvx>hehe. personal preference i guess. i find it less harsh on the eyes
[03:59]<vvdt7>kergoth: btw do you know how to use ctrl-tab in text-vim?
[03:59]<pfrsdrhh>Random: because it was a design goal of vim. indenting in source code would look ugly
[03:59]<rrgdjd>PlasmaHH: who the hell indents source code anywhere but at the left?
[03:59]<rrgdjd>and indents from the left would look fine
[03:59]<ndjwy>uh,huh
[04:00]<ndjwy>yes, people would use 2x more spaces to indent for it to have at least some sort of form
[04:00]<rrgdjd>bleh, spaces
[04:00]<cnzrjvx>you'd have to use hard tabs, and itd be nearly impossible to do proper _alignment_ with spaces
[04:00]<rrgdjd>anyone who indents with spaces deserves what they get - or they could just use a fixed font
[04:01]<rrgdjd>maybe even bind a key to switch fonts
[04:01]<pfrsdrhh>there are languages that need indentation
[04:01]<ndjwy>Random: you don't actualy plan to use vim for coding, right?
[04:01]<mgzdgy>kergoth: What font is that (terminal and tabbars)?
[04:01]<rrgdjd>Nyoxi: the point is, i don't plan to use it JUST for coding
[04:01]<cnzrjvx>deryni: bitstream vera sans mono
[04:02]<ndjwy>Random: so you're ok with having to switch fonts back and forth? proportional vs. fixed?
[04:02]<rrgdjd>Nyoxi: i could bind a hotkey for it
[04:03]<ndjwy>Random: how would you define window size? in pixels?
[04:03]<rrgdjd>why not?
[04:03]<rrgdjd>or do it in terms of the width of a particular character
[04:03]<rrgdjd>digits, maybe. or the letter 'n' or 'x'.
[04:04]<rrgdjd>excel uses digit width
[04:04]<ndjwy>but then there could be more 'i's on the line
[04:04]<rrgdjd>so?
[04:04]<rrgdjd>that's the point.
[04:04]<ndjwy>oh my god
[04:04]<ndjwy>go and use text processor

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